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- anonymous asked:
Let’s start a #stopthe0T4jokesBB just hurtful to SeungRi VIPs and not funny
“Hãy bắt đầu hashtag #stopthe0T4jokesBB vì nó gây tổn thương cho SeungRi và chẳng vui vẻ gì đâu”
try telling that to the “ot5″ stans who think that people should just let it go but refuse to take people’s feelings into account because they’ve been through similar situations: your answer will most likely be met with a no. aka the same “ot5″ stans who fail to realise that the other members are more popular and how they talk about seungri will be taken seriously by others, especially those who don’t know shit about bigbang. it may just be a joke but in the long run it does portray him negatively. but agreed anon, its just getting tiring now lmao
“Tôi đang cố gắng nói cho mấy người tự nhận là “OT5 stans” stan, các người nghĩ rằng cứ để cho nó trôi qua đê và chẳng thèm để ý tới cảm xúc của người khác?? Vì họ đã trải qua những cảm xúc tương tự nhiều lần rồi. Với OT5, những người không nhận thấy những thành viên khác phổ biến hơn SeungRi và sẽ như thế nào nếu những điều họ nói về SeungRi những người khác nghĩ là nghiêm túc chứ không phải đùa? Đặc biệt là những người không biết cái SHIT gì về BIGBANG, mấy người nghĩ ai cũng hiểu rõ BIGBANG à?? Nó có thể là một trò đùa nhưng về lâu về dài thì nó có nghĩa tiêu cực. Quá mệt mỏi vì trò đùa này rồi lol”
Inside maknae-spanking joke or not, the fact that they have to explicitly retract it (“No really, we love him!”) means they know there are plenty of “fans” out there too dumb or mean to get it…haters gonna hate and all, but those comments are even weirder to me since they actually will be down one member soon. Meanwhile Seungri’s still gonna be there working his fantastic ass off for VIPs. Wonder if he’ll make any more jokes about his efforts being meaningless? Hilarious!
didn’t seungri himself say that he felt bad when he felt he did lots of fanservice but fans still preferred the hyungs? I didn’t imagine that right? if someone could help source, that’d be great.
I do remember on a japanese show last year, he did say something along the lines of he has to be the funny/goofy one because all the hyungs have the “cool” image already. and he would fade into the background even more if he tried to compete with them on being “cool.”
also can we talk about how he NEVER performs his own self written solo work? he only performs “strong baby” that was written by gd. and “let’s talk about love” that features gdyb as a major part of the song. the last time he did “what can I do” was for alive tour(in combination with “strong baby” still). I mean, that was over four years ago now. he never sings “gotta talk to you” or any other songs from ltal. it makes me worried that well, he thinks that his own solo endeavors aren’t that successful or good. that without the hyungs’ influence, people wouldn’t care about his solo stages. 😦
VIPs, please support Seungri as much as you support the other members. He is a great artist and great person and he brings happiness to so many people (me!). He deserves a lot more support and love from VIPs all over the world! He does so much but gets so little in return. I know deep down you know how vital he is to BB so why not show him more 💙💜♥💟💗💟💙💜♥💗
that is hurting me and i dont understand how other vip dont get this at all and dont understed us???
how someway this fan turning thing exacly the opposite?????????? they tottaly dont hating on BAE they just asking a better treatment and they understad us ?????? NO NOT AT ALLL
THE TOTTALY ALIENATIG US WITH TEESES JOKES
AND WHAT IS THE ANSWER
“Those who know me know that I’m not Seungri biased. I’ve never been. But let me tell you somethig: that doesn’t make me blind to how talented he is or how much effort he puts on everything he does as one of the members of Bigbang.
About how he’s treated. I’ve talk about this with the DG. I’ve been concerned about the way the other members treat him, the jokes…I feel like he has to put on a show and be “extra” to get his time because he “knows” the attention will be on the others; that he as he is wouldn’t get as much attention. And that hurts even if he’s not your bias because that’s not what he deserves after 10 years of working his soul off. He’s a grown man, one that has worked so hard to get to this point, not only the goofy one of the group… (Also, he’s no that way when he’s DJing or with his business)
And the way he’s trated has an impact in the way fans look at him. See him as the “funny” one, the cutie…(I do understand the role of the maknae in a group, but they’re no longer teenagers. Again, he’s a grown man. Are they going to treat him the same when they’re 30-40??)
He should leave BB(?) Although I think he’s not being treated the same as others, bigbang wouldn’t be the same without him. Bigbang wouldn’t be here without him. He deserves his place in Bigbang. He loves Bigbang. Bigbang without Seungri IS NOT BIGBANG.
Even if the company (and some VIPs) seem to think that his career and his solos aren’t as important as other’s he’s an amazing singer. You can like him or not, but he is and he deserves a minimum of respect after all this time.
One thing that I love about him, one thing that I’d never forget is how much he loves vips. And it seems like he has to beg for attention, for love. He even thinks that he’s the last on the VIP’s hearts. How can you say you’re a BB fan, a VIP if you’re part of the group that makes him feel that way?.
He’s important. He’s talented. He’s Bigbang. He’s loved. He deserves to be trated the same, and with respect.”
“Thực sự thì tui không phải bias SeungRi, nhưng tui sẽ nói với các bạn về sự cố gắng của cậu ấy. SeungRi luôn đối xử với mọi người rất tốt. Trong BIGBANG cậu ấy giữ vai trò cute?? Tại sao ngay cả khi cậu ấy đã là một người đàn ông trường thành? Một điều nữa tui không bao giờ quên là SeungRi còn viết thư cầu xin sự chú ý và tình yêu của VIP nữa, cậu ấy luôn nghĩ rằng mình đứng cuối trong bảng xếp hạng của nhóm. Tại sao bạn có thể tự xưng là BB fan, là VIP khi bạn nghĩ rằng cậu ấy không quan trọng và cậu ấy không phải là một phần của nhóm, điều đó sẽ làm cậu ấy cảm thấy như thế nào chứ??
Cậu ấy rất quan trọng, cậu ấy tài năng, cậu ấy là BIGBANG, cậu ấy cần được yêu thương và đối xử công bằng”
I hope, I well damn hope, that while on stage, after that lame joke, they had a moment and thought “ah, maybe we over did it”
I hope that when they looked at fan taken photos and comments on instagram and videos, they saw how Seungri’s face fell and how he quickly tried to hide it behind a laugh and a smile.
I hope that they realised once again that although they know it’s just a joke, their words influenced fans into thinking that they don’t love him, that they don’t want him, that it’s ok to think badly about Seungri.
I hope that after the show, when Seungri didn’t go with them in the waiting room, they didn’t wonder why he disappeared.
I hope that after realising his absence may be due to too much teasing, they all had a quiet moment in which they felt a bit guilty.
I hope that at their own ways, they tried to apologise and make it better and make Seungri understand that they love him regardless of what they say.
I hope that they won’t take for granted Seungri
I hope that even before considering 12/12 as the date of their album, their still recognise it firstly as something more important: Seungri’s birthday.
I hope they’ll show so much love to Seungri in the next shows and appearances, that they’ll make up all the bullying he went through.
Lastly, I hope that Seungri, as the good man he is, he’ll forgive and forget, he’ll remember how many people love him among all the people that hate him, that he won’t disappear out of sadness, that he’ll keep his head up and think about positiveness, that he won’t feel the need to escape to another country in order to feel happy, that he’ll sleep warmly and soundly and live daily happily.
I really hope all of that from the bottom of my heart”
“Vấn đề là, ngay cả khi nó là một trò đùa đi chăng nữa thì không phải ai cũng cảm thấy vui vẻ. Nếu họ làm điều này với YB hay ai đó thì tui cũng cảm thấy đau lòng như thế này thôi. Nên bất kể bạn bias ai, tui yêu họ rất nhiều cơ mà nó chẳng cool chút nào”
GQ: Why are your members always talking about Seungri?
VI: To be honest, if I wanted to, I could talk all night about my members too but I won’t do that. I’m the type to tell stories while letting myself go. I can’t talk bad about other people due to my image because people will say “Oh, Seungri is talking about XXX behind his back. Seungri likes doing that”. But when other members talk about me, the situation becomes “Ah, so Seungri is like that”. It becomes so that members can talk about me but I can’t…
GQ: Why does it become “Ah, so that’s Seungri’s words”
VI: That’s still a mystery but people think that Seungri has a lot of stories, is interesting and special. Lots of people believe that and when I’m with G-Dragon hyung and T.O.P. hyung, everyone will start talking to me first, haha.
GQ: It must be tough always being labeled as the backstabber and ‘the maknae that doesn’t know much’, especially when you are making music as a man.
VI: Oh…yeah. Like that time when T.O.P. hyung talked informally on how I don’t know how to grill meat. I felt sad at one point. Why did he have to say that before my solo album was released? But I guess I have to solve that problem myself. What can I do though, he’s my hyung. I can’t tell him not to talk about me and I can’t get angry. Besides, people need to hear this kind of things to say “Ah that’s Big Bang indeed. The things that Big Bang says are interesting.” The hyungs need my stories otherwise they won’t talk a lot, so tell me what I can do.
GQ: This will affect your style of music though
VI: That…that…yes, it will. The effect is there but what can I do? I can’t do anything about it.
GQ: The problem can’t be solved with a simple explanation either.
VI: Yeah, even if I explain it now, people will still say “Oh he’s that kind of person”. I can’t take back what was said already.
GQ: Or you can always not explain and say, “I’m Seungri, the humorous and extraordinary Seungri”
VI: Oh, that’s correct. You’re right. If I have to explain that “it was a mistake”, then it feels like I’ve lost. I don’t know but it’s a scary feeling.
GQ: What is the appeal of the modest Seungri?
VI: It would be nice if at least 1/3 of the people in Korea think that I’m modest. Sometimes when I go out and drink with my friends, they will say, “Seungri, don’t be discouraged. I like Seungri. Why do you walk with your head down? Have more confidence, lift your head and walk.” I guess friends understand each other. (To interviewer) Hyung, you’ve seen the entertainment business for so long so you should know how things are. When you see me on T.V, you should know why I’m like that. Oh, I’m getting sad again.
2008, Come To Play.
Seungri told the story of how he got into Big Bang. He shared his 5 reasons as to why Big Bang needed him.
- First, the position of maknae, aren’t I the most suitable?
- Second, dance. Performance and choreography, I know them very well. I have experience. In the future, when the group is performing, I can help them in this.
- Third is about concept. The strong charisma the hyungs have can attract fans very well. But my cute, gentle image should be able to get the likings of fans as well.
- Fourth, the self confidence that I have in whatever I do helps project a better image.
- Fifth… the fifth is not really a reason at all. If YG gives me another chance, I would never make you regret, Ill work very hard. If you give me another chance, I’ll show you what I’m capable of.
This story is important. This story is the defining moment of how Big Bang, from originally only planned as a 4-member group, suddenly became a 5 member group. This story is why YG broke his own rule of only have 4 members or less in his groups. 1TYM? Big Mama? Swi.T? Moogadang? 2NE1?
YG saw something in Seungri that made him change his mind.
However, as he was telling his story, the other members were making fun of him. And after the story…
Daesung says, “This isn’t right!”
The whole studio interrupts into laughter. Seungri is left baffled by how Daesung was taking his story.
And so Seungri says, “Today, I’m really disappointed with out members.”
Yoo Jaesuk asks, “What are you disappointed at?”
Seungri answers, “That… they can’t understand me…”
“… it was my real feelings, no matter what…”
“I think I am who I am today because of all the hardship I went through.”
And everybody laughed at him.
Yep. He wasn’t even trying to be funny here. It’s either the others are just plain oblivious to Seungri’s feelings or they just suck at interpreting social cues.
I’m sorry. I just remembered this again and I…
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